tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4854917240637353068.post3027853973730324430..comments2024-02-21T10:36:51.773+00:00Comments on Axe Birding: Third-summer (4cy) Mediterranean GullSteve Waitehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02234938942274343663noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4854917240637353068.post-86194622501242991122020-06-30T22:43:49.740+01:002020-06-30T22:43:49.740+01:00Thanks Tim - good stuff. And yes, cameras are cer...Thanks Tim - good stuff. And yes, cameras are certainly helping us a lot in ID/ageing this day and ageSteve Waitehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02234938942274343663noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4854917240637353068.post-27989049667338640992020-06-30T22:43:16.969+01:002020-06-30T22:43:16.969+01:00Thanks Gav, interesting to read! The benefit of r...Thanks Gav, interesting to read! The benefit of ringing though, good to be reminded it still has a place in modern day ornithology Steve Waitehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02234938942274343663noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4854917240637353068.post-91785150695625327332020-06-30T21:48:43.523+01:002020-06-30T21:48:43.523+01:00To repeat Gav, age-able 3w not uncommon (should be...To repeat Gav, age-able 3w not uncommon (should be about a third of 3w birds according to Malling-Olsen) - I've got a collection of photos of such. The problem is markings often limited to a small smudge on P9 so only visible on spread wing and rarely something you'd notice in the field; from a series of photos however. . .Tim Worfolkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18081554391725867216noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4854917240637353068.post-60710813474291621362020-06-30T10:35:24.096+01:002020-06-30T10:35:24.096+01:00Steve, Olsen & Larsson says re 3rd-winter (and...Steve, Olsen & Larsson says re 3rd-winter (and hence 3rd-summer too, prior to primary moult later in year): 'P8-10 sometimes with short dark markings to outer Web (present in 25% of third-winter males and 50% of third-winter females)'.<br />So you're right. Definitely not 2nd-summer birds. Gavin Haighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17242398421328525578noreply@blogger.com